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The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

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The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by NRR on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:46 pm

http://www2.canada.com/montrealgazette/features/viewpoints/story.html?id=dc4df633-0ff1-4506-b292-dd8ab13bfb0d

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Post by puck35 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 1:50 pm

It's being actively discussed over at whyweprotest :

http://forums.whyweprotest.net/15-media/montreal-gazette-disses-anonymous-scientologists-have-right-speak-43945/2/#post837486

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Post by Guest on Sun Apr 19, 2009 2:50 pm

NRR wrote:http://www2.canada.com/montrealgazette/features/viewpoints/story.html?id=dc4df633-0ff1-4506-b292-dd8ab13bfb0d

*facepalm.jpg*

I'd like to have a third hand to cover my face on how ridiculous the gazette is and how it makes raptor jesus sad

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by SomeRandGuy on Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:31 pm

Some scilon obvious voiced their disapproval. "Omg!! I'll sue you!!" or some shit. Either that, or they have scilons working at the Gazette.

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Post by puck35 on Sun Apr 19, 2009 3:39 pm

SomeRandGuy wrote:Some scilon obvious voiced their disapproval. "Omg!! I'll sue you!!" or some shit. Either that, or they have scilons working at the Gazette.

I think it's because the Gazette editors are fucking reductionist dolts who simplify the whole thing to the tired freedom of speech crap. This is why we have to hit them with the academic integrity as requisite to academic freedom argument.

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by The Rooster on Sun Apr 19, 2009 4:45 pm

Lost cause if I've ever seen one. If the Gazette is still on our media contact list, can we just take them off?

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by AK on Sun Apr 19, 2009 5:56 pm

First of all, who posted this? Was it posted anonymously? I don't see a byline anywhere (unless I'm dumb, than simply disregard)

Never mind the merits of an idea; when it is denounced anonymously, it's the critics who seem sinister.

Is from their own article! All I see is that it's from The Gazette (duh) I agree with what was previously said, they're a lost cause.

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Post by EaterofCake on Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:02 am

Suppression of ideas? They are speaking of a cult that tries to suppress its critics!

Also noticed that this article writer appears to be anonymous as no name is credited. How are they any less sinister then ourselves?

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by AK on Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:22 am

EaterofCake wrote:Suppression of ideas? They are speaking of a cult that tries to suppress its critics!

Also noticed that this article writer appears to be anonymous as no name is credited. How are they any less sinister then ourselves?

I completely agree.

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by NRR on Mon Apr 20, 2009 2:35 am

Before we get all paranoid...

It's quite common in anglo-saxon press to have unsigned editorial since it represent the opinion of the editorial team.

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by AK on Mon Apr 20, 2009 3:38 am

NRR wrote:Before we get all paranoid...

It's quite common in anglo-saxon press to have unsigned editorial since it represent the opinion of the editorial team.

It's more the fact that they rag on anonymous while making an anonymous comment themselves. I don't think it's paranoia more irritation at hypocrisy.

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by EaterofCake on Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:22 pm

AK is correct. Im not being paronoid, but very irratated at the article writer.

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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by puck35 on Wed Apr 22, 2009 12:40 pm

For what it's worth, they printed this letter today:

http://www.montrealgazette.com/opinion/letters/Scientologists+didn+deserve+soapbox/1520593/story.html

Re: "Scientologists have a right to speak, too" (Editorial, April 19).

Your editorial's plaintive title betrays a fundamental misapprehension of the issues involved.

No one denies the right of Scientologists to say whatever they want,
however wrong and untrue it might be. What some people are concerned
about, however, is the fact that they are being given a
publicly-funded, intellectual soapbox - the Atrium of Concordia
University's library building - from which to make their crackpot
claims. That is the issue.

Concordia vice-president Michael di Grappa's warm and fuzzy
post-modernist musings non obstante, the claim of the exhibit is to
tell the truth about psychiatry's abuses - nothing less. Note the
definite determiner.

I suggested in my last (unpublished) letter that perhaps the university
ought to make space available for an interactive exhibition by the Flat
Earth Society. Let me put it more bluntly: Can we expect The Gazette
editorial board to support an exhibition by something like the Ernst
Zundel Holocaust Deniers Appreciation Society? I thought not - and
rightly so.

You cavil that "tiresomely, many of Scientology's foes choose to remain
anonymous, claiming that critics have been harassed in the past." My
first letter and now this one do not fit into that category at all.

Je persiste, et je signe,
Norman Ingram
Montreal


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Re: The Gazette: «Scientologists have a right to speak, too»

Post by EaterofCake on Thu Apr 23, 2009 2:41 am

Win letter is full of well-written words. I am in much approval.

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