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Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by David Miscavige on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:38 am

Hi there,

I been having 2 JW's who been visiting me regularly for the past month. Being an agnostic and very curious about beliefs I enjoy debating them very much and they have been very respectful and polite so far with me.

I am aware that a lot of people accuse them of cult like practice, including ex members, but I have to admit I am not very familiar with what they don't talk to me about (the stuff they don't like the public to know)

I was wondering if you could point me to various ressources to do research on the subject, one of them is quite open minded and I think that if I show him relevant information he would actually consider it.


Thanks in advance.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:19 pm

Hey David : the best thing to do is to read my website www.watchtowerlies.com

Everything is there in french and english.

Also don't forget : at the beggining they will be nice with you, but once you are baptized they will become mean. if you disobey they will punish you severly and disfellowship you and shun you. All your friends and familly in there will stop talking to you. Check out my page on the prohibitions :

http://www.watchtowerlies.com/watchtowerlies_021.htm

it is a cult. JWs will say they are not. The org is lying all the time in its publications and they can do it for there is no law to condemn it. it will show you only one side of the coin. For example, since the Jehovah's Witnesses organization imposes extremist values, they prohibit pre-marital sex. The Jehovah's Witnesses organization discourse states that people who live in sin are miserable people that are prone to sexually transmitted infections and unwanted pregnancies. What the Jehovah's Witnesses organization neglects to say is that some people use condoms and are free from the above mentioned problems! But using a condom is never presented as an option meaning/leading people to believe that they don’t exist. The same thing goes for creationism and evolution theories. The Jehovah's Witnesses organization argues in favor of creationism and against evolutionism. They ignore proven fact by never showing pictures of fossils that have been discovered that may support evolution theories. The Jehovah's Witnesses leaders are hypocrites at their best!

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 1:23 pm

Also, since a couple of years the Watchtower magazine has 2 versions. One soft for the outside people and one with the real stuff for the one who go to the kingdom hall and those baptized. it is a control cult. The elders will reprimand you and make you loose privileges if you dare to disobey anything. Even if you're right and they are wrong they will never change their mind and will laugh at you and punish you and humiliate you. They never apologize.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by Turboknight on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:09 pm

Thanks for the informations Yalbmert99 I didn't know much about this cult

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Wed Mar 21, 2012 3:20 pm

It is a very hypocritical cult lead by crooks, the watchtower leaders are expert liars.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by David Miscavige on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:21 am

Thank you very much Yalbmert99

I have looked into your links, I have also heard that they predicted the end of the world and pushed some of their members to sell all their possessions a few times in the past?

Could you give me more info on that too?

Thanks again.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Thu Mar 22, 2012 4:34 am

Well the cult has predicted the end many times. The last time was for 1975. Many witnesses sold their house and spend more time preaching thinking the end was for 1975 so they lost a lot for nothing. Some left their jobs to preach more to save more people before the end.

see:

http://www.watchtowerlies.com/watchtowerlies_065.htm

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by David Miscavige on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:19 pm

Thank you yalbmert

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Mon Mar 26, 2012 3:20 pm

Smile

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by peterstorm on Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:45 am

Here you are yalbmert99 longtime no see.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 3:51 am

yep here i am...anonqc is closed right?

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by peterstorm on Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:13 am

Yep anonqc is closed. We had no more money to run it.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:53 am

It's ok this one is working at least.

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by Guy_Fox on Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:20 pm

yalbmert99 wrote:It's ok this one is working at least.

And it ain't going anywhere Very Happy

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Re: Question for Yalbert about jehova's witnesses

Post by yalbmert99 on Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:45 pm

Rolling Eyes

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